Can I Take The Filter Floss Out If My Cycling Tank

Cole142 · February 13, 2018

I know people similar "king of diy" practise this. but I'thou not sure what they use

BHK3 · Feb thirteen, 2018

Aye. A lot of people keep a spare HOB on their tank with media in it so that when thry start upward a new tank they can take hold of the media out of information technology to jumpstar the new tank. Chunks of aquarium sponge/foam is mutual, though I've also done regular media (Seachem Matrix) in a bag and so I could just pull the bag out. If you do this make sure to let the media bike on an existing tank for nigh 4 weeks before moving information technology to the next tank.

Mike1995 · Feb xiii, 2018

personally, for example, in all my canisters I try to put equally much biological media every bit I can in them then that I tin open them up and throw some in a new filter if I need to. With hob filters, I've used aquaclear 70s a lot. Since in that location's a lot of room in them, I sometimes put two or three bags of those little white pellet things fluval makes in the filters and when I get-go up a new tank, I simply take 1 of the numberless out to cycle information technology. I've washed that with ehiems version of those things too.

Cole142 · Feb 14, 2018

Yes. A lot of people continue a spare HOB on their tank with media in it so that when thry beginning up a new tank they can catch the media out of it to jumpstar the new tank. Chunks of aquarium sponge/cream is common, though I've as well done regular media (Seachem Matrix) in a bag so I could just pull the bag out. If you exercise this make sure to permit the media bicycle on an existing tank for about 4 weeks before moving it to the adjacent tank.

So what if I put sponge filter type of sponge in my filter?

bitseriously · February xiv, 2018

So what if I put sponge filter blazon of sponge in my filter?

Sponge filters piece of work by drawing water through the sponge, from the outside to the inside. If you place one in an HOB or canister, water will more probable pass around it. You'd get some bb colonizing the sponge, but not as much as if you physically prepare the sponge filter inside the existing tank every bit a supplemental filter and actually had information technology working. Certainly it would be better than not seeding information technology, but it volition simply start the process, and shorten the fourth dimension to existence fully cycled in the new tank - information technology won't get you all the mode at that place.
Also, the actual amount of bb in any (cycled and stable) tank is related to the bioload and corporeality of waste that is produced (from fish, and other sources) not necessarily the corporeality of media in the filter(s). Example, lets say half dozen tetras are in a tank, and the filter has one,000,000 bacteria (give or take a few dozen LOL). Adding a sponge, or more media, or another filter will non increase the number of leaner, merely they may spread out to new places. If you end up with 250,000 on a sponge, and 750,000 in the filter, and yous have the sponge out to kick start another tank, yous demand to take into account that your source tank volition be low on bb'south. A small proportional change can exist recovered from quickly (esp if you skip a feeding or two), but y'all may need to treat with an ammo/nitrite neutralizer while the bb recoup. Should exist fine within a twenty-four hours or two.

Rythmyc · Feb 14, 2018

Sponge filters work by drawing water through the sponge, from the exterior to the within. If y'all place one in an HOB or canister, water will more probable pass effectually information technology. Yous'd get some bb colonizing the sponge, but non every bit much equally if y'all physically set up the sponge filter inside the existing tank every bit a supplemental filter and really had it working. Certainly it would exist amend than non seeding it, merely information technology will only start the process, and shorten the time to being fully cycled in the new tank - information technology won't get you all the style at that place.
Also, the bodily amount of bb in whatever (cycled and stable) tank is related to the bioload and amount of waste that is produced (from fish, and other sources) not necessarily the amount of media in the filter(s). Example, lets say 6 tetras are in a tank, and the filter has 1,000,000 bacteria (give or accept a few dozen LOL). Adding a sponge, or more than media, or another filter will not increase the number of leaner, but they may spread out to new places. If yous end upward with 250,000 on a sponge, and 750,000 in the filter, and you take the sponge out to kick first another tank, you need to take into account that your source tank will be low on bb's. A small proportional alter can exist recovered from quickly (esp if you skip a feeding or ii), only you may need to treat with an ammo/nitrite neutralizer while the bb compensate. Should be fine within a 24-hour interval or two.

I've never had any problems stealing media from whatever tanks. An established colony will regrow before any noticeable amounts of Ammonia or Nitrite are even detectable.

Every bit far as using established media to "instant cycle". When yous do this, you have 2 choices.

ane) The media you seeded volition accept a healthy colony, but small. It will keep up with a small addition to a new tank. It volition NOT support a fully stocked new tank. So you lot could add a small corporeality of fish, and continue a shut eye on parameters. And so slowly add more stock as the colony establishes itself in the new tank.

2) Use the established media to boot offset a total Fishless cycle. Drib the media in a new filter, dose to 2 ppm Ammonia, and do the normal Fishless cycle. It will only take a week or two, depends on the size difference of the tank, and other contributing factors

Sel · Feb 14, 2018

Then how practice people successfully run a QT tank then? It'southward only prepare when yous become new fish.

Rythmyc · Feb 14, 2018

So how practise people successfully run a QT tank and so? It'south only set upward when you get new fish.

QT don't get massive amounts of fish in them at once. Typically a QT is used for pocket-sized additions.

mattgirl · Feb 14, 2018

When I replace the filter cartridges I utilize in one of my HOB filters I cut the cobweb off the old one and put it dorsum in the HOB filter. I do this in a saucepan of tank h2o to help keep the bacteria alive.

Only recently I prepare my v.five gallon tank back up. I used that fiber in my corner filter to jump start it. It doesn't take a bang-up deal of filter media to leap first ones QT since they are normally much smaller tanks.

I also run 2 double sponge filters in my big tank so I am always prepared for leap starting a new tank. I know bacteria in a bottle tin can exist purchased (I've personally never used it) merely I don't call back established filter media tin be improved on.

Once ane goes through i long drawn out cycling process and they protect it once finished they should never have to become through information technology again if they retrieve ahead and have plenty of seeded media ready to use at a moments notice.

Punkin · Feb 14, 2018

I keep lots of extra squares of filter floss in my Aquaclear handbasket. That fashion if I need a QT tank, I take plenty gear up. Y'all tin stuff a decent corporeality of extra floss in an HOB, I was surprised.

xloe · February fourteen, 2018

I keep lots of extra squares of filter floss in my Aquaclear basket. That way if I need a QT tank, I have enough ready. You can stuff a decent amount of extra floss in an HOB, I was surprised.

I noticed I could fit quite a bit more than floss in my aqueon filters likewise.

KimberlyG · February 14, 2018

I buy bulk filter pad and cut it into pocket-sized pieces so tuck it inside my filters. All fifteen of my tanks have extra media. If you lot are trying to cycle a sponge filter, I cut the white filter material off of a cartridge and wrap it around the sponge filter securing information technology with a couple rubber bands. It's ugly for 3 or four weeks but I don't wheel. The last fourth dimension I had to it was a nightmare and I won't do information technology again.
EDIT: Oh, nigh the QT filter. I don't take my QT down anymore. I heavily feed an empty tank. When I did take it downward, I transferred the sponge filter to my overstocked Mbuna tank. I never had a problem doing that.

Cole142 · February fourteen, 2018

Thanks everyone. And then what would the best thing to use to put in my filter?

bgclarke · February xiv, 2018

Thanks everyone. And so what would the best thing to use to put in my filter?

What filter do you lot have?

Cole142 · Feb fourteen, 2018

Meridian fin 10 hang on the dorsum

bgclarke · Feb 15, 2018

Summit fin 10 hang on the back

Like this?

Filter floss is your all-time bet if you lot're using the cartridges designed for it.

Niki Rose · Feb xv, 2018

Just to add onto this but what were those things joey was talking well-nigh that y'all fill with media that can hide in the back of your tank or behind decor.

I need something like this only because I dislike having to spend so much coin on extra filters or spending half an hr getting media from my canister's which takes a long time since I take to shut off all the pipes as well and since the filter itself is total of h2o it only creates one big mess.

Cole142 · Feb xv, 2018

Like this?

Filter floss is your best bet if y'all're using the cartridges designed for information technology.

It's this filter

bgclarke · Feb fifteen, 2018

Merely to add together onto this simply what were those things joey was talking almost that you fill up with media that can hide in the dorsum of your tank or backside decor.

Not certain.

Was it mentioned in a particular video?

I've never looked inside that detail version, but suspect that floss would exist the easier option.

If there is plenty empty space inside, you might be able to add something like bio-max or Matrix.

xloe · Feb 15, 2018

I've read that some people employ polyfil or quilt batting in their filters instead of ownership replacement floss.

Niki Rose · Feb 15, 2018

Non sure.
Was it mentioned in a particular video?

He just mentioned information technology briefly in the how to starting time an aquarium video, was simply wondering if anyone else had done this.

bgclarke · February fifteen, 2018

He just mentioned it briefly in the how to start an aquarium video, was just wondering if anyone else had done this.

I'll have to check it out, curious what he'south referring to.
I like keeping actress bio-media in my filters merely I'm finding adding too much affects the flow or causes a bypass.

EbiAqua · Feb 15, 2018

I overstock my main HOB with ceramic rings (Aquaclear 70) for merely such an occasion. If I need to get a new tank cycled quickly, I but throw some already cycled biomedia into the new filter and give the new tank a double-shot of Stability. Works like a charm.

Cole142 · February xv, 2018

Would aquarium sponge in my filter work?

EbiAqua · Feb 15, 2018

Would aquarium sponge in my filter piece of work?

It should, yes. Only let it sit in the filter for a month or then.

Wraithen · Feb 15, 2018

It would, particularly if you could put it in the flow somewhere. You lot could run an extra sponge filter with the hob, and put filter floss in the outflow of the filter you currently have. With such a minor filter you lot tin can't really overstock with much, however, if yous combined a small amount of seeded media and safety starting time plus, you'd likely be fully cycled within a few days.

bgclarke · Feb 15, 2018

He just mentioned it briefly in the how to start an aquarium video, was just wondering if anyone else had done this.

I merely watched the video.
He mentioned putting ceramic rings in pantyhose or media numberless and placing them in the aquarium.

I was under the impression that ceramic rings, bio-max, Matrix, etc needed water flowing over them in a filter in order for bacteria to grow well on them.

Niki Rose · Feb 16, 2018

I just watched the video.
He mentioned putting ceramic rings in pantyhose or media bags and placing them in the aquarium.
I was under the impression that ceramic rings, bio-max, Matrix, etc needed h2o flowing over them in a filter in social club for bacteria to grow well on them.

It may work if In tanks with lots of menstruum or apportionment like his. Although I do thing information technology would at to the lowest degree have a flake of bacteria in low menstruum tanks, non sure if it would be enough to seed an entirely new tank.

Or equally another thought maybe I could put pre-filter sponges on all the filters I have and use them to seed other tanks instead?

Wraithen · Feb 16, 2018

Prefilter sponges would work too

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